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Script No. 379
Radio Broadcast live on Hillside 88.0 FM
for Sunday 1 May 2005CE
2547 Buddhist Era


“Meditation on Hate, Greed and Ignorance”


'The most important thing for John, fundamentally, is to show teachable beings the way out of suffering, to help them understand the way out of suffering and provide the materiality to do it."

This quote was taken from his biography, The Non-Ending Journey, written by his student Evelin Halls, and, as it states, fundamentally describes his motivation for his extraordinary efforts during his life.

Master John Hughes was in fact very successful in this regard and was once heralded as 'one of the apostles of our New World Buddhist Order in the Australia - New Zealand Region' by the Supreme Patriarch of the Buddhists of Bangaladesh, His Holiness Venerable Shilalankar Mahathero.

It is true that he benefited many beings during his lifetime, but we also now have the special opportunity to hear his teachings after his death. Through the efforts of his students many of his teachings have been preserved in audio and video recordings.

His students, who now continue Master John's work, are digitising these recorded teachings and are making them widely available by uploading them to our website www.edharma.org. We encourage our listeners to visit our website for the study, practice and realisation of these most precious and profound teachings

We thank every being who has contributed to preservation of the teachings of Master John D. Hughes and we wish them to all attain the matchless bliss of enlightenment.

Today's program is one of these such teachings, and was given by Master John D. Hughes to his students over 20 years ago at the Buddhist Discussion Centre (Upwey) Ltd.

The authors apologise for any errors or misunderstandings that may have occurred in the process of transcribing the talks from the original recordings.

The teaching is entitled, 'Meditation on Hate, Greed, and Ignorance.'

Master John D. Hughes began in the following way:

We would always like to be separated from the people we hate because remember the conditions of rebirth are hate greed and ignorance but in fact driven by our kamma we run into the people we hate. Just as driven by our kamma we run into the people we love. So this is dukkha; meaning unsatisfactory.

Now dukkha has got finer meanings, for example, say you've gone for a long walk and you're tired, you sit down in a chair, your aching limbs have a rest. So you think this is the stopping of unsatisfactoriness but after a while sitting in a chair you get squirmy you want to get up and have another walk. So if you're lying down before long you want to get up. If you're up you want to lie down, if you're sitting you want to stand. This is dukkha, this is what dukkha means, unsatisfactory. So the dukkha never stops and this is what the ... the happiest moment you've ever had has got some little unhappiness or unsatisfactoriness in it.

That's what the mind doesn't know either. That's the second thing, the first one is impermanence, the enlightened mind knows, the second one is dukkha, unsatisfactoriness is suffering, now the third one is even more subtle. This is what an enlightened mind knows. That there is no permanent self anywhere in the universe. You are not a permanent self. We talk about my feelings, my body, my this, my that. If you were a permanent self you would have made a body that lasts forever and perfectly healthy and never die. If you were a permanent self you'd always have pleasant feelings - but no one ever has this. The reason is there's no permanent self.

The "I" we think of is due to ignorance. There are feelings yes, there are thoughts, yes, there is a body, yes, but there's no permanent self experiencing it. So when we talk about past lives, and things like this, people think we're talking about reincarnation, the idea of a permanent self that goes from one body to another. This is not Buddhist idea, this is Hindu idea. Buddhists idea is rebirth. Because of a set of conditions you generated in past you come to this birth. Now if you generated conditions to be born female you'd be born female, generated conditions to be born male you'd be born male. If you generated conditions to be born dog you'd be born as a dog. If you generated conditions to be born as a hell being you'd be born as a hell being. And if you'd generated conditions to be born in any of the fifty four different heaven worlds you'd be born in heaven world. But they're all impermanent they don't last.

Now some of the heaven worlds .... all the length of time in the heaven worlds are all documented in the Buddhist texts and commentaries. Now for example this is what human beings don't understand. Say a human being, for example, lives we'll say a hundred years for the sake of argument. An action, say one action of well we'll say one human killing another with intention, not accidentally killing, could generate a hundred thousand years in hell. Now a good action could generate we'll say eighty million years in one heaven world.

Now why don't, no one wants to go to hell, heaven worlds are much better. As a meditator, if you develop celestial eye which several have got here, you can check out for yourself are hells and heavens real. There's a certain point in meditation develops celestial eye you can look in hell see if its real, look in heavens. If you develop telepathy you can chatter away to people. Not hearsay, got to find out for yourself.

So the enlightened mind knows this for sure; that the cause of the trouble, the cause of all this living again, dying again, suffering again, again and again and again. The enlightened mind knows this; the cause of the trouble is hate, greed and ignorance. So therefore what Buddhist practice amounts to is to reduce the hate. Now it would be nice if we could say hate stop and it would stop, but it doesn't work like that. Or greed stop, doesn't work like that or ignorance stop, doesn't work like that. You have to train the mind with skilfull means. Now Buddha taught forty types of meditation. There's an infinite number of meditations. Those forty types of meditation will bring you to nirvana and to the finish of the troubles.

If you get the wrong meditation; well whatever meditation you do that's where the result will come. You two were talking about siddha yoga tonight, Ces also was here, he's gone to siddha yoga. If you practice siddha yoga you will develop siddhis; you'll be able to levitate. I know people who can levitate. You'll be able to do transformation bodies; things like this. But if you play with them it won't help you any because your siddhis you develop are impermanent, they're also dukkha, they also cause you trouble in the long run and sooner or later you put all that energy into that sort of practice, you develop siddhis and given time you'll loose them.

So Buddha says when you develop siddhis, when you develop what people call magical powers, there's nothing magical about them, anyone can develop these sort of things if they practice. The siddhis are very dangerous because you get sucked in by them; they're just another ego trip. Right. Now the Buddha says don't play with your siddhis. The only legitimate use of your siddhis from Buddhist viewpoint is to teach the Dhamma. And the Buddha in the text he goes through all the preliminary steps before you use siddhi. Now in Buddhas day, for example one very powerful yoga and the Buddha had big magical battle that lasted three days and the Buddha defeated that yoga. It was the only we he would come to find the Dhamma. But normally you will never see a Buddhist monk or anyone with siddhis display them in public. If you see somebody who displays magical powers in public don't go near them is my advice. Because there is a component in them to do that of wanting name and fame which is a form of greed.

So in Burma there's five monks who can levitate. That monk there, Tan Acharn Moon could levitate. He was sitting in the forest in Thailand a few years back, or he's passed away now, and one of the Thai Airforce planes was flying over and here two thousand feet above the ground sitting happily, happily in meditation was Tan Acharn Moon. So the Thai airforce guy, you know reconnaissance plane, took a photograph of him two thousand feet in the air. So then instantly, he was a forest monk, principally only had a few monks he was training, then the army came in and they build a big city around him, and move electrical generating plants and then people came to visit him and all his peace was destroyed.

Now that monk over there in that photograph met Tan Acharn Moon and he said to him tell us about what happened. Tan Acharn Moon explained to Tan Acharn Boonyarith, this monk here, that in actual fact he wasn't levitating. But his meditation was so powerful that although this body was sitting here, there was a, like an energy field forms around a powerful meditator; that's why if you can get near one and sit with him it's a good idea if you keep your mind quite because you will learn a lot, and the energy of that vortex of meditators energy is such that anyone looking at that energy will see automatically a projection of his body.

So technically if you want to look at it from one view although it looks like to clouded mind and to camera that he was sitting at two thousand feet, if you want to go into technical details he was sitting on the ground and this vortex was just a mind wrought projection. Now clouded minds don't see correctly. If another Arahant, fully enlightened being, was looking at Tan Acharn Moon under those situations he would have seen body sitting here, vortex going up well probably more than two thousand feet, it just happened the plane was at two thousand feet when they saw him.

Now Buddha's psycho-projection body, last Buddha, Sakyamuni Buddha, goes eighty miles into the atmosphere. In other words there is eighty mile psycho-arc when the Buddha is in meditation. And that is why devas come, thousands, and what they see is when their minds strike this, they see Buddha. So that for example a deva in first heaven world would see projection of Buddha in first heaven world, a deva in second heaven world would see psycho projection of Buddha, right up through fifty four heaven worlds. The beings, the devas of those heaven worlds see Buddha and they learn from Buddha.

Now while Buddha's teaching say humans he is teaching also in fifty four levels of heaven world, when he is in bright meditation of course, if he's just sitting in first jhana he's sitting just like some of you sitting here. Now for this reason the Buddha Dhamma is called in Pali devamanussanam which means it's for teaching devas and men. And here we teach devas too. And if you all become bright meditators and meditation teachers in the future you'll want to teach devas. They're much easier to teach than human beings because their minds are not like human beings like this. They've got bright minds like meditators minds so they're easier to teach. So you remember that.

Now your practice would be no good unless you get refuge in Buddha, you don't worship Buddha, Buddha as a teacher. The Dhamma, his teaching and the Sangha, the group of enlightened beings who will help you. Now with refuge in Buddha Dhamma Sangha instantly you get a lot of devas, a lot of gods become your protectors. So life has a lot less hassles then. So the key to Buddhist practice is refuge in Buddha Dhamma Sangha. Keeping five precepts, no killing, lying, stealing, adultery or drugs that cloud the mind. And on that base your meditation will just look after itself. Because you'll be taught by telepathy, that's why. So if you're ready to be taught, you'll be taught. If you're not ready to be taught you can wander around the world looking for someone to teach you, if your mind was too jangly you wouldn't know an enlightened being if you fell over one.

So its a matter of preparing the mind. Now the secret is mind inside, in the present and brightening the mind and creating good conditions.

Alright take rest now.
John asks some students how they went in their meditation. Then he teaches again

Get into the present quickly. Hurry, hurry. Hurry hurry. Mind inside in the present. Knowing the present. Whatever happened in the past in last twenty minutes drop; can't alter past. What happens next have no concern that's future. So get mind into the present instant by instant. Knowing like this. Knowing knowing, like that, hearing only like that.

Mind inside. Leonard your mind's outside bring in. Whose out there? Michael, hurry hurry. Is he on the phone? Michael come and sit hurry, hurry. Well have a pee, hurry, hurry. Now mind inside quickly. If your mind is inside you will slowly observe the present without strain. Your mind's outside put in. Mind's outside put in. I'll put it in for you. Don't try and make the present moment permanent. Don't try and, don't try to hold on or fix the present moment, it is impermanent, it will change, change, change. You should be observing change like this. Hearing come, hearing go, everything change. Everything change. Instant by instant. One instant come, one instant go. That is present life gone. Then another one. Gone. Don't cling onto anything. Stop grabbing. Put mind inside. I help you, like that.

Michael sit out there quick, you'll disturb the others. Quickly, hurry.

Now knowing the present instant. Instant by instant. You cannot change the present. Why? Because if a pleasant feeling arises it just arises and then it passes away. So it arises, observing the present instant by instant If a pleasant feeling arises it arises passes away, fading away, fading away, cessation and then it stops. Then a new one, a different one, maybe unpleasant or something. It arises, passing away, fading away, fading away, cessation, gone. Say feeling in the body; feeling arises, if you look arising, falling. Arising passing away, fading away, fading away, cessation. This is direct discovery of impermanence for yourself. Noting, noting, impermanent. Hearing come, hearing go, seeing come, seeing go. Fresh instant.

Now sometimes self image of ourselves which are called sankhara, self image comes, we are this. Don't grab at image. Then image passes away. Then next one come. We are this. Don't grab at image, fades away. Next sankhara, we are this, fades away. Self images. Many, many. We got so many different self images. If we grab one and play with it we believe that's what we are. Now unfortunately the ones we grab at generally are trouble. So better not to grab. Just knowing. Idea comes, I am this sort of person. Don't touch. Not "I am". Image is this sort of person arise, fading away, fading away, cessation, gone. Next one. Like that. Knowing the present.

Now if the mind is not grabbing, not grasping, if mind is inside, knowing the present, then you undertake the following. Just in present not for life, that would be ritual. Your body is sitting now, speech is immobilized, mind quite enough, you are undertaking the training precept of no killing. Your mind is not killing at this instant so you are holder of one precept. You are not lying now. You're not lying with body speech or mind so holder of two precepts. You're not stealing now. Mind is not stealing. Sometimes the mind doesn't know. At the present instant by instant the mind is not stealing. It's not grabbing anything, it's not stealing. It's not stealing. The mind is not stealing so you are holder of three precepts. No killing, lying, stealing. You are not committing adultery at the present instant. Knowing, knowing, knowing, this instant. Not committing adultery. So holder of four precepts. You are not taking intoxicants that cloud the mind at the present instant. Knowing, knowing. So you are holding five precepts. Now the situation is this; you are holder of five precepts.

This very pure, very unusual. Because of all the people in Melbourne you're lucky if you could find one in ten thousand who are holder of five precepts at this instant. Where are the holders of five precepts, these one in ten thousand? They are in this room. They are you. In this room there is strange phenomena. Representatives of a million people but they are holding five precepts. Because of this the mind holding five precepts automatically becomes bright, more peaceful.

It goes into what is called first jhana, first absorption. And this is pleasant enough, and it quietens down, it stops its grabbing, like that. Some of you are going up second, third jhana, I know. Now, sitting in first jhana the mind is come to peace. Some peace. It is knowing instant by instant impermanence. Hearing only, seeing only, knowing only, it is peaceful. It can accept without any trouble this change. Hearing only, hearing only, hearing only, like that. Knowing only, feeling only. So the mind has come out of trouble in first jhana.

Vrinda you are trying to get too high and you are causing waste of energy. Drop down about one jhana, you got stuck between two there. That's better Vrinda, like that. Like that Vrinda. Then mind becomes steady. Don't crave to run up jhanas, just sit the one, the lowest energy without struggling. That is about second jhana, that's better. Experiencing that peace.

Now because of the situation where the mind goes, which is inside. The mind sitting up in first rupa jhana or second rupa jhana in Vrinda's case is easy to teach. It can hear things which the jangled mind can't hear. Now that mind in first rupa jhana is one type of consciousness. There's a hundred and twenty one types. So in first jhana is one type, second jhana another. Doesn't matter but it's quite good mind, its not defiled. Now it can hear things like what we were saying earlier. Only it hears from a better viewpoint. It hears things like this. It hears; if when eating food you do not let your mind run to the food but eat the food when its gets on the lips. That is better for the mind. Then if anything happens between the food outside and the food coming to the lips, say someone's handing you a bowl of food and it drops on the floor just as you're going out to reach it your mind doesn't become upset. If someone is handing you say coffee or tea or glass of water and it drops before it gets to your lips the mind does not get upset.

Now the long term effect of this practice is it overcomes greed. So there is some transfer. You must eat food, you can't go on diets or fasts, too extreme otherwise you get too weak. You must eat a reasonable amount of food. Since you eat food everyday if you develop mindfulness, like if you could sit in like first or second jhana and eat your food like that many things happen. First of all the food makes you healthier, it gives you long life, it also gives you wisdom, it gives you strength and it gives you beauty. So it is not the type of food you're eating so much as the condition the mind is when you eat. So mindful eating of food, because it is something you do everyday, is an easy meditation. Because you're going to eat food everyday. If you don't let the mind grab at the food gradually, gradually, gradually the greed, with which everyone's born, because if you didn't have hate, greed and ignorance you wouldn't be born, gradually that greed reduces. When it reduces wisdom comes because no wisdom can come to a mind thats blinded by greed because greed its insatiable, it'll just, there's no end to it. Greedy mind grabs one thing, grabs one thing, grabs, there's no end to it, so it never knows any peace. So sitting like this if you practice eating food, knowing, knowing, knowing, like this, automatically you get the greater merit of food.

Now the facts are that if somebody offered you food while you sit first or second jhana now they would get a multiplying factor of about at least a thousand. What does this mean? In your ordinary jangled state of mind somebody gives you say a meal; their jangled, you're jangled; like karmically they would get about one meal back. If someone offers you a meal sitting in this jhana, this absorption they would get a thousand meals back automatically. Because the law of kamma depends on the mind of the person giving and the mind of the person receiving. Like if you could meet a Buddha and offer food to Buddha you'd only have to give him one meal you'd be born a millionaire about six or seven times. But Buddha's past away.

Now if you do anything with your mind in first jhana you start to help other beings. If someone gives you a glass of water, there's ten merits come from a glass of water, by you sitting like this you increase the prosperity of other beings. This is helping other beings. Now the kamma of that is good things come back to you.

So very very simple things, such as brightening the mind, keeping the mind inside, knowing, knowing, knowing like you are now. When these are developed you create incredible good fortune for many people. Now a lot of people come here, they haven't got jobs, this is over the last few years, a lot of things happened and they think somehow I am giving them job training. Which is true at some lokiya level. But the most important thing is they are giving me glasses of water or cups of coffee. I brighten my mind, they learn to brighten theirs and this creates the base for good fortune.


May all beings be well and happy.
May the Buddha Dhamma flourish all around the world.
May many beings come out of suffering.

This script was prepared and edited by Frank Carter, Lainie Smallwood and Alec Sloman.


References

Recording Title: Meditation on Hate, Greed and Ignorance.
Tape 1, Side 1
Teacher: John D. Hughes
Date of recording: 06/08/1984
Transcribed by Alec Sloman
Checked by: Frank Carter
CD Reference: 06_08_84T1S1A
FileName I:\06_08_84T1S1A_JDHtranscribe.rtf

The Non-Ending Journey, By Evelin C. Halls, 2000.


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