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Buddhist Hour
Script No. 370
Radio Broadcast live on Hillside 88.0 FM
for Sunday 27 February 2005CE
2547 Buddhist Era


‘Traits and Abilities’


We continue now with the next part in our series of transcribed Buddha Dhamma talks by John D. Hughes during a five-day Bhavana course in June 1988 at the Buddhist Discussion Centre (Upwey) Ltd.

The talk is entitled ‘Traits and Abilities.’

The authors of today's script apologise for any errors or misunderstandings that may have occurred in the process of transcribing and editing the talks from the original audio tape recording.

If you tuned into the Buddhist Hour last week, Sunday 20 February, you may recall the talk ended in the following way:

So just notice that when you start to alter your behavior, or alter your, or build abilities, you can't rely on Samsara not coming along to interrupt you, because Samsara came along to interrupt you by bringing you here. The fact you're here was an interruption of your pre-planned vice or stupidity or dumbness. Samsara brought you here; Samsara can sweep you away from here.

But my advice is, alter your abilities, get your ability to stay here, because it's ... or get here regularly or something. Just meditate through that, see where that puts you.

We now begin with the talk entitled, “Traits and Abilities.’

All right, so we've been talking about traits and abilities and I hope you can distinguish between the two.

Very roughly, a trait is just some old kammic disposition that you've practiced so regularly in the past that it's your natural disposition. So some people are naturally generous for example. That's a trait. Others are naturally stingy, that's a trait. But it can be anything at all. In other words no one trained them to be like that, it's just their kammic disposition. Now of course if you've got generosity, if you've got stinginess, get to some sort of generosity.

Other people have got the trait they like to associate with ratbags or drunks or anti-social beings or criminals. They naturally go and seek the gutter if you like. That's a trait. And that's something that, because the Buddha says associate with wise. So that is kammic, your kammic disposition.

You often, you've all seen people, maybe, the extreme is, I know many families with say brothers and sisters. Out of one family you might get one boy or girl, and it might be just an ordinary middle class, you know suburban family, or might be upper middle class, and one boy or one girl will go, and there might be one in a hundred people in that town who are duds or crooks, they'll go and seek them out and befriend them.

On the other end of the spectrum, there might be one in a hundred people who are very bright, very clean. The other sibling will go and seek that person. And so their cultures very quickly diverge and they end up in totally different worlds. Now that is kammic. Remember, although they just happen to have some kammic link to be born brother and sister to the same parents or something.

And that is just a natural arising of following whatever came. There was no, there was no intellectualisation about it. There was no sitting down for five years and say "I'll plan to go and mix with ratbags" or "I'll plan to go and mix with musicians or artists or whatever". It was just the kammic traits manifesting. But then other people will say "I'll go and study this".

Now very roughly speaking there's certain subjects I studied, for example geometry, the minute I saw it I was, the teacher would write the first two lines, I'd never seen it before this life and I'd, I could fill in right down to QED. So I was top in the class for geometry, I didn't have to study it was just like, I knew every single proof every single line of Euclid and the reason is I'd studied it before.

There were certain things in art and architecture that I just, I knew more than the teacher just by looking, you know. There were some areas of music that I just, you know, accelerated in. Mathematics, some areas of mathematics I'd eat. Other areas that had been invented since I'd studied mathematics I found as difficult as anyone else, but other parts I just flew into.

Reading was natural. I could read from a very early age, I'd devour books. I had the good kamma that the schools were shut because of polio so instead of wasting my time at school for a few years I'd just read and read and read. Books and books and books and then, because of my good kamma people would give me books. So I had a library, by the time I was about five I had my own personal library I suppose about maybe 600 books. Something like that. So that is kammic; that's all it is.

Who's in there?

So these a… If you just stop there and just repeat what you've got, well you'll just reinforce, you ... it's like saying all you are doing is repeating your past life. You... A series of human lives. And the result is that you never get any new ability. Unless you add new things to your kit of parts, then you're not getting anywhere.

So we get this idea of progress. It's not a Buddhist idea. The idea isn't progress in the normal sense of the word. The Buddhist idea is this: identify what's wholesome, what makes good kamma and increase it. Identify what's unwholesome, what makes bad kamma and decrease it. That's the preliminary steps of Buddhist persistence and constraint. You persist in developing wholesome minds, you constrain the arising of unwholesome minds; like satipattana.

Now because the, of all the things in the world, there's never been more things in the world than there is today. Like there's new sciences developing by the dozen. Just think of a few of them and you'll realise. The technology of putting men on the moon. The Russians are going to put men on Mars. Material science, I'm not going to go through it, but there's developed you know all sorts of new materials developed, new paints developed, new, new everything developed.

So there’s never been some many individual items. Frank will tell you that, he's in liquidation stock. Like you can see machine, machine, machine, he never, you know, it seems no end to them. So to give you some idea there's probably about at least 10 million new inventions added to the world each year. Brand new things no one's ever had before.

Now the goal is not to go and collect 10 million new toys if you like. The goal is to isolate one or two characteristics that you have to some degree and focus your mind on to them clearly, understand how they arose from past, what were the conditions that made them, what are the factors that deteriorate them and what are the factors that make them stay.

Now, as you know, the basis of Buddhism is to find refuge in something. And you've heard the arguments a million times by now, that if you take refuge in money blah, blah, blah, if you take refuge in house, if you take refuge in your body, your clothes, if you take refuge in anything then the analysis shows that you're foolish. And then ultimately you get some idea that the only thing to take refuge is in the Triple Gem, Buddha, Dhamma, Sangha or maybe four, Guru as well.

Well we'll stay with the basics. Buddha became enlightened by himself. He taught the Dhamma. Now the Dhamma is not a Buddha invention, it's not like inventing a new carburetor. The Buddha discovered the Dhamma and it happens it's the same Dhamma that every Buddha discovers. The Dhamma is very difficult to discover. The highest refuge is the Dhamma, below that the Buddha and below that the Sangha. That's the Buddha's own statement. And that's why the Buddha wouldn't appoint a successor to himself like a Pope or anything like that. He just wouldn't. He was asked and he said "No". And he said the self's got to be the guardian of the self.

So the Buddha did two things, he said "when I pass away, the Dhamma, (his teachings) is to be the refuge" and he did one other thing while he was alive what happened was one of...you've got to realise he the richest men in India, everyone gave him vast properties, villages, he had more real estate than any living man in India's got today. Because people gave these vast estates, these ..some people gave him villages you know, like they had slaves there, the whole packet, the slaves, the building, the land, everything. Just given to Buddha, personally, and he used that for his Monks.

So he was very, very, very rich in, we call it real estate today and some of the real estate had a lot of buildings on it. Now if you study very carefully you'll see how the Buddha transmitted that for the use of the Sangha and made a lot of Vinaya rules about, no particular Monk owns it and if there's so many Monks one's appointed as a quarter master and so that the greedy Monks don't take more than there share and so on and so on.

Now where is the refuge and how do you get it and how do you maintain it and how do you increase it? Because remember, when the refuge is complete you are fully enlightened, In other words, you might say that the only beings who have got completed, perfect refuge are the Arahant fruit. They have become living Dhamma, although they're human beings, their mind is Dhamma. That is the content of their mind, they have no, Arahants have no training to do, they have completed their training. An Arahant has nothing further to do, except suicide.

Now basically the way the suicide comes, he creates the conditions for not being born again. Whereas all other people because of their ignorance don't suicide, they take rebirth. So an Arahant is if you like, has completed everything, has done everything that's to be done, completed, has no more training and automatically out of the vast knowledge of the Arahant the only final thing the Arahant does is not create another rebirth anywhere, not in heaven, not in hell, not anywhere, nowhere.

Now if you say you stop your life, like using conventional words, we say that's suicide, that you stop your life. So the Arahant, if you like to use the word suicide, at death every Arahant suicides but not by destructing his body, not by destructing his mind, merely by not creating the causes for further attachment to Samsara. And since there is no cause for birth, there can be no birth. And each Arahant goes to Parinibbana by the same method and it's described in the texts which jhanas they do, they go up, they come down, they go up, they come down and then they vanish. And they vanish and that's parinibbana.

There is no, some of them leave relics of course, like the Buddha leaves relics, they might cremate the body or find a few relics. Some of them, depending on their practice, their body vanishes, they don't leave a dead body. Others leave a body that doesn't decay. They had some of these in Tibet, these bodies 7, 8, 900 years old, are not decayed, they don't putrefy. What they generally do, they usually die in the lotus position, pass away in the lotus position. So what they generally do they, sometimes they put the body on the altar or sometimes they put gold leaf over it. And one of the things the Chinese did in Tibet, they took some of these Ancient bodies that didn't decay and they burnt them. And made the Tibetans watch. The Tibetans were aghast of course.

So all sorts of psycho phenomenon occur. Geshe Loden has got one image that he got from Tibet it's about four hundred years ago. It is an image of Tsong Kapa. Several years ago he said to me "Touch that image" and I felt it and round the face it's warm and I looked carefully, I put my glasses on, and it's growing like, like fine skin.

So although it's a bronze image, it is like living skin on the face and it's warm, it's like, just like feeling nice warm skin. It's some psycho relic working and that image he brought from Tibet he's still got it, beautiful, I always pay respect to it when I see it.

So there are relics and basically, basically the, it's quite a wise practice to bow down to relics. It's quite a common custom, it has a meritorious thing, without ritual it's very hard to do, touch, see often. But we touch it so you offer it otherwise you don't get any merit.

So we now look at this Buddha or Buddho, Dhammo, Sangho. It should be in order of hierarchy Dhammo, Buddho, Sangho. And that's the Three Refuges. Now how do you know when you've got refuge? What are the marks of someone whose got refuge and someone who hasn't, how would you know? What would the difference be? Look in your mind, see if you've got refuge.

You've heard Buddha, Dhamma, Sangha, which in most ages you can't hear. Like if come to birth for billions of world cycles, never even heard the word Buddho, or Dhammo or Sangho. But it just happens you're born in a Buddha Sasana. Dhammo, Buddho, Sangho. Dhamma, Dhamma, Dhamma it's the Buddha.

So how are you going to do it? These are the only refuges worth having. How do you get refuge? Don't worry about the mechanics, just how do you know if you've got refuge or not?

Well try again.

The simplest way, I wouldn't do it of course, but the simplest way of knowing if you've got refuge is I'd pull out a gun and shoot you. And if you were born in a Buddha field you had refuge. If you weren't born in a Buddha field you didn't have refuge. But I'm not gonna test you out, I don't kill, but that is how you would know if you had refuge.

You would be born instantly into a Buddha era or Buddha teaching heaven and there is only three places basically you can learn. One is human in a Buddha cycle or era. Two is you're born in Sukhavati, Buddha heaven, there's many Buddha heavens, like Sukhavati. And the third one is you are born, Sukhavati your got body, rupa, and the third is you could be born in arupa heaven in which dwells the being who will be the next Buddha, Maitreya. 60,000 million years from now, that Maitreya being, who's a Bodhisattva, will die in that arupa heaven, take human rebirth and that is next Buddha.

Beings who are born in that heaven pull out and take birth with him. They become his monks and nuns. So that's the source of the next Buddha Sangha, the one after this one. So how, if you haven't got Buddha, Dhamma, Sangha refuge and you die, you will not hear Buddha, Dhamma, Sangha teaching. So how do you do it? How do you get refuge? What's the trick? Well maybe there's no trick. Maybe it's just practice. By having Buddha, Dhamma, Sangha refuge in my former lives, in this life, without a teacher, I could remember Buddha. Because I established, very firmly,

the Triple Gem Refuge. So I could remember all about the Buddha, Dhamma, Sangha and I knew all about Buddhism and I could find out with no teacher.

Having got remembrance, I could then send my mind to Tibet, I could find Teacher's, I could look at, find out how many Teacher's there are in the world and so on. I could examine thoroughly all the worlds to see what the situation was. The Dhamma Eye, Omni essence, Omni essence, Omni essence.

So it's very important to get refuge correctly. How many ways do you think there are of getting refuge? Well the answer there's probably an infinite number of ways because there is an infinite number of beings all of different. So, now if you take a Buddha, Dhamma, Sangha refuge and we go into conventional, conditional words, we will call and we will dig around to find some other words out of you, we will call Buddha, Dhamma, Sangha refuge, I found a word here earlier when I was looking for a word, we will call that loyalty to Dhamma practice, as a conventional, conditional Dhamma. Look if you have Buddha, Dhamma, Sangha, you have loyalty to Dhamma practice. You won't practice, you know, heretic religions, you won't go on a smorgasbord, and you’ll just practice Buddha Dhamma.

Has anyone got a better word than loyalty?

Switch that tape off Frank, we'll dig around here.

These figures are your estimates of the trait where you felt a kindly disposition to the words Buddha, Dhamma, Sangha or the idea Buddha. And the other figure which in all cases, except Michael, is higher through ability. One of the characteristics of these figures, except Joy at 60/40, but the bulk is that somewhere in the range .. you know say ...you know as a sort of average say 70 to 90 percent you have built refuge by creating a new ability.

Now that, it's like saying as a function of time your traits fade off. Normally they will just stop at your death won't they ... to a great extent. But the abilities, the oomph you put into creation of value through your ability through working to make it, to create a new ability in you, that will carry over into your next life.

May you know your wholesome traits and persist in strengthening them.

May you know your unwholesome traits and be diligent in restraining them.

May you be well and happy.

May all beings be well and happy.

This script was transcribed, prepared and edited by Julian Bamford, Frank Carter, Leanne Eames, Celestina Guliano, Evelin Halls, Anita Hughes, Alec Sloman, Lainie Smallwood, Julie O'Donnell and Amber Svensson.


References:

Recording Title: Traits and Abilities
Tape 8, Side 1
Teacher: John D. Hughes
Date of recording: 28/6/88
Transcribed by: Frank Carter, Lainie Smallwood
Checked by : Lainie Smallwood, Frank Carter
CD Reference 28_06_88T8S1A
File Name: 28_06_88T8S1A_JDHtranscribe.rtf

5 Day Meditation Course
28 June 1988, 3.26pm

Words: 3,350

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